Author Topic: Unknown frog in Fred's Zintete camp | Leptodactylus mystaceus / longirostris  (Read 321 times)

Offline kdjong

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This frog was in Fred's Zintete camp on February 11th, 2018. Any ID?

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Klaas
« Last Edit: Wed, 10 October 2018, 09:11:44 PM by Auke »
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Re: Unknown frog in Fred's Zintete camp
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 20 August 2018, 11:44:31 PM »
Leptodactylus sp. probably L. fuscus :)

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Re: Unknown frog in Fred's Zintete camp
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 22 August 2018, 11:08:38 AM »
Hi, no this is not fuscus. Either mystaceus or longirostris..

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Re: Unknown frog in Fred's Zintete camp | Leptodactylus mystaceus / longirostris
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 10 November 2018, 03:01:17 PM »
Hi,

So what is your criteria ? I pretty sure of fuscus ;)

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Re: Unknown frog in Fred's Zintete camp | Leptodactylus mystaceus / longirostris
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 25 November 2018, 11:14:25 PM »
Hi Kontact.

Well, according to one of the most recent exhaustive systematic works by de Sá et al. (2014), L. fuscus always has dorsal folds, L. longirostris sometimes, and L. mystaceus doesn't. The specimen in the picture doesn't seem to have them. At least, only dorsolateral folds are clearly present. See picture in this comment for a fuscus with all folds. mystaceus and longirostris can both have white upperlips, de Sá et al. (2014) distinguish them by presence of white tubercles on sole of foot.

Sá, R. O. D., Grant, T., Camargo, A., Heyer, W. R., Ponssa, M. L., & Stanley, E. (2014). Systematics of the neotropical genus Leptodactylus Fitzinger, 1826 (Anura: Leptodactylidae): phylogeny, the relevance of non-molecular evidence, and species accounts. South American Journal of Herpetology, 9(s1), S1-S100.


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Re: Unknown frog in Fred's Zintete camp | Leptodactylus mystaceus / longirostris
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 25 November 2018, 11:53:29 PM »
Klaas' photo is not too clear and his specimen appears to be a bit muddy, but I believe I do see at least three dorsal folds on it, most clearly just in front of the pelvis.

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Re: Unknown frog in Fred's Zintete camp | Leptodactylus mystaceus / longirostris
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 26 November 2018, 08:36:59 PM »
Well, I definitely agree the photo is not so clear. However, I'm also not used to fuscus having such a distinct white upper lip.